Li Yuan Wu

A Chinese student blogging about her life in Denmark

Why should I speak Danish?

Danes generally have high English proficiency, that’s why some say that there is no need to learn Danish when you come here as a foreigner. My opinion is that yes it’s not necessary if you only come to Denmark for a short stay, say 1 or 2 years, and don’t really have any long-term plans here. But if you intend to stay longer then it’s a totally different story, but it really depends on where you are from.

If you are a non-European citizen like me, you are required by law to learn Danish, otherwise you can’t apply for permanent residence in Denmark, so you basically have to learn Danish if you want to stay. It’s generally frowned upon to live here for many years and not speak the language, and those who don’t will therefore often be viewed as un-integrated in society. (Danish politicians on both sides express this view almost daily in the mainstream media)

If you are a European citizen, whether or not you can speak Danish won’t influence your legal stay in Denmark, but the above statement still applies, and you should learn Danish if you want to feel truly welcome here.

For both scenarios mentioned above, learning Danish is quite necessary, as when you live in Denmark, everything around you is formulated in Danish, so it’s much easier if you understand and speak some Danish; e.g applying for jobs at medium-small sized Danish firms, Lunch at work with Danish colleagues, nights out, or just socializing with Danes.  Often you are the only foreigner, trust me, after a few years of feeling like an outsider you will either be very motivated or very jaded. (Quite a lot of jaded foreigners out there who’ve never felt welcome)

But this might be a surprise, if you are from Sweden or Norway, you probably also have to learn Danish to truly fit in, at least that’s how many Scandinavians I’ve met feel. It’s interesting as many Danes think Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish are like dialects, so it should be possible to communicate using only your native language.

Yet one of my Norwegian friends expressed that surprisingly, language has become one of the biggest barriers in her daily life here in Denmark, a problem that she definitely didn’t expect to encounter when she decided to move here. Because she is Norwegian, she only speaks Norwegian with her Danish friends. Sometimes she can tell that her friends can’t fully understand her, but they never change to English, even though they are all fluent in English. Somehow there is a mutual understanding that they should understand each other, so they would rather struggle to understand Norwegian than speak English. As she says, “It would feel so odd if I had to speak English with Danes”. So her solution is to inject Danish words into her Norwegian, to make sure the Danes can understand her better. (Of course now she has problems when she goes back home and starts using her Danish flavoured Norwegian).

So in summary, if you want to stay here, learning Danish should be one of your top priorities. So enjoy “rød grød med fløde”. And do try not to choke on the hot potato in your mouth. :-)

By Li Yuan Wu • March 27, 2011

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Things I’ve missed about Denmark

I was in China for almost 2 months to visit my parents and family. It had been over a year since I saw them last time. It was great to see them and have so much fantastic Chinese food and you know I have been talking and dreaming about this good food for long time. But after I had stayed there for about a month, I started to miss Denmark and Danish food. I found this a bit strange, I mean it would be kind of make sense if a Dane says something like this, right? And while I live in Denmark, I often bitch about how boring Denmark and Danish food is, but this time in the 2 months away from Denmark, I realized that there are some things in Denmark which are quite addictive.

No.1 the fresh clean tap water

When I just landed in Beijing airport, I went to the toilet and started to drink the tap water. Man, you guys should have seen people’s face when they found out that I was really drinking it. LOL

No.2 Danish milk

In China there are two or three big dairy brands and none of them taste good. The fresh milk tastes like some kind of milk powder drink and there is another milk product which is filled in some kind of small carton boxes, it is marked as fresh milk on the box but it can last in the normal room temperature for 6 months. Hmmm fresh milk ?! You know the first kind of fresh milk is so expensive (10Dkk for 1 liter which is a lot for an average Chinese ) so many people drink the carton one instead.

No.3 Cheese

There is actually Danish butter and two or three kindsof cheese in Chinese supermarkets. But the price… it costs around 40 dkk for normal butter.

No.4 Danish bread

I love the dark bread, especially with different kinds of sil (Herring). mmm yum yum, but I can live without it. But normal white bread is kind of necessary for daily life, but in China the normal while bread is like sweet tea buns or cake, it’s so sweet you can even use it for dessert.

So that’s what I can think about it for now, what about you? If you have lived in Denmark before, have you missed the things I have mentioned above? Or maybe something else.


By Li Yuan Wu • April 4, 2010

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Happy new year everyone

I cannot believe that it’s 2010 already; you know it is still difficult to refer to 2010 as “this year”, and so many times I’ve had to shred papers to rewrite the date because I wrote a fast double zero with a 9 instead of a 20 followed by a pause and then a 10.

In general I think my 2009 was a good year even though it was full of ups and downs. I appreciate all the experiences even bad experiences, because it makes me look at things from different perspectives and it makes me stronger. So how should I end this great year? Be together with my boyfriend and friends to count down new years was defiantly my first priority. Like everywhere else, it’s quite common in Denmark that friends hang out together and either go out to party or party at home.  So we decided to host a party with friends at our apartment which we just moved in at May 2009. You know just to test the quality of the apartment. I think we are quite satisfied with the result, only three glasses got broken and all the colorful stains on the floor kind of disappeared after we washed it :-P

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It was a Chinese themed cocktail party but everyone got so drunk with polish vodka which we bought in Krakow last time we were there. At that moment, it suddenly struck me that all my friends are foreigners. Hehe, it’s hard to explain, but most of my friends are foreigners or not very Danish Danes. I don’t know why maybe you can help me to understand, but I guess it might be that us as foreigners share a similarity-”not Danish”. Somehow we don’t have a superior feeling towards other people, so the barriers that separate us become lower.  Anyway, we had lots of fun.

My new year’s goal is to become a more healthy and stronger (both mentally and physically) person. What about you?

P.S Luckily due to my Chinese identity, technically I’m still in 2009, Chinese 2010 will officially start from February 14th 2010.  And my boyfriend and I will go back home to celebrate New Year with my family. We are so looking forward because going to China to celebrate New Year means lots of good food plus more great food. ;)

Hmmm it seems like I already have set up a big challenge for my healthy new year goal. Let’s see :-P

By Li Yuan Wu • January 6, 2010

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Refugees of love

Some fall in love with someone here, some enjoy working here, some enjoy the Danish hygge culture (cozy), and some just really like rugbrød (the Danish dark bread).  The reasons don’t really matter, the fact is that a lot of people really enjoying living here in Denmark.   

Unfortunately, it’s not that easy for people who’re not from a European country to stay here in Denmark. I don’t want to repeat the rules, as you can find the general information on the Danish integration ministry’s website. www.nyidanmark.dk  But in general, no matter what’s your visa type, you need to have it for 7 years to be able to apply the permanent residence permit.    

During the last decade Denmark has earned a reputation of tough and restrictive immigration policies, there are some who take pride in this, and others who find it deeply shameful. As a foreigner who has lived here for 7 years, my guess is that the Danish government decided to focus on the quality of immigrants.

But it deeply frustrates me that I find myself marginalized to some extent by my inability to influence the areas which affect me the most, such as immigration law.

Maybe you know about last year’s scandal in the Danish integration ministry. For those who don’t, I will tell you the story very briefly now. It turned out that the Danish integration ministry has lied or misinformed the general public about the immigration law for Danes who married foreigners.

The integration ministry, and the Danish government in general, has claimed that all applicants for family visas are required to live up to a long list of specific requirements in order the qualify. The most controversial of these requirements are the so-called 24 years rule, and the attachment requirement.  For those EU citizens “unfortunate enough” to fall in love with a non-EU citizen the only way to circumvent these rules is to apply for a family reunification visa based on the EU laws of free movement for laborers.

Since instituting the strict immigration laws, the Danish government has repeatedly claimed that a stay of perhaps several years in another EU country such as Germany and Sweden was required to utilize the EU labor laws.

As a result those whom had the misfortune of falling for one of those men or women with strange names, funny sounding languages and oddly colored passports had to become “refugees of love”, uprooting themselves and their lives to move to Malmø, North Germany, or in some cases much further away.  This may not sound like a big deal, but for many this meant quickly selling their homes and quitting their jobs, and even giving up their voting rights (as Danish citizens lose the right to vote after an extended stay abroad), in order to set up a life abroad which would be recognized as authentic by the Danish government.

Imagine how these people felt when they found out that the Danish government had been lying to them all along, that the Danish government knew, (and had known for quite a while) that all that was required in order to qualify under the EU labour law was a period of work abroad of perhaps two weeks part-time employment, while living in a rented flat.   

I would have felt angry. Angry for being lied to, but perhaps more angry about all the confusion and uncertainty that the lies caused. Unnecessary confusion and uncertainty about what the future would hold, whether or not I would be able to start a family with my spouse, if I would be able to go back to my life in Denmark, or if I would have to remain a refugee of love.

I find it amazing that the Danish government actually did this, willingly marginalized a small group of Danes, just because they fell for the “wrong” person.

These Danes more than most understand what it’s like to be a foreigner in Denmark     

How there always seems to be another thing to worry about.

Uncertainty about what the future holds for you, questions like if you will be able to stay here in Denmark, or you will have to uproot and move somewhere else.

Confusion about what your rights are, if you might have to leave the country if you get pregnant, if going back to see your family might worsen your chances of getting a visa in the future, and what the best course of action for improving your chances might be.

I understand the need for rules, but I sometimes wish that Danes would just open up their hearts and accept us for who we are, for it is truly a sad thing when people are forced to become refugees of love.

By Li Yuan Wu • October 23, 2009
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Christiania’s 38th birthday

Last Saturday the 26th of September was Christiania’s 38 years birthday.

Some of you might know about Christiania, but for those who don’t know that much about it, here is a little general information.

Christiania is a very special place. The whole thing started from when a group of people occupied an empty military area in 1971. Then slowly the spirit of Christiania quickly developed into a hippie movement, collectivism and anarchism. The purpose was to create a place where creativity, openness and freedom was embraced. And Christiania is indeed an artsy place which is full of creativity.

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There are around 850 people “legally” living at Christiania, some pursue very self sufficient and alternative lives, whereas others have completely regular jobs in the city. But that’s not really the reason why Chritiania is so famous.

The real reason is that Christiania is an open drug market located almost in the heart of Copenhagen. Christiania’s pusher street has 50 something stall and tiny shops selling all kinds of Hash or other “light drugs”.

These drugs are illegal in Denmark, and in principle they are also being sold illegally in Christiania, but even though the police go into Christiania once in a while, it seems like the drug trade there is more or less commonly accepted.

So on Saturday Rune and I went to Christiania with some of our friends to check it out.

There were really a lot of people, and it was almost too crowed to walk around. But it was also a very relaxed and happy atmosphere, and our friends even did a little clothes shopping. There are a lot of small shops that sell second hand things. In Danish we call it loppemarked. I think one of my girlfriends bought a pretty nice dress for 50kr.

So we drank some Christiania beer and jumped around, screaming at a D.A.D concert. We really had a lot of fun.

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Maybe you don’t believe me, but this was only my second time in Christiania in the 7 years I have been living here in Denmark. It’s a very nice place. People are very friendly. So you can always find a lot of fun, no matter when you go there.

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I can hardly imagine that a place like Christiania exists anywhere else. Tell me what do you think ;-)

By Li Yuan Wu • September 30, 2009

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Crime and Safety

The other day I went to a town near Copenhagen to visit one of my friends. I was waiting in the shopping center for my friend to pick me up, it was after 8pm so most of the shops were already closed, so I did a little “window-shopping”. I noticed something strange about one of the shops, there was a note pasted on the window which said, “Der er ingen penge I butikken efter lukketid” which means “there’s no money in the shop after closing time”, moreover the shopowner had actually taken out all the empty tills and laid them out so that you could clearly see that they were empty.

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This might not seem like a big deal, but it somehow struck me as a fun and unusual way of avoiding burglaries.

Crime in general seems to have been become a much more common phenomenon here in Denmark during recent years, in particular violent crime such as robbery, murder and rape. By international standards things are still pretty good here, but it is nevertheless difficult to understand why these things keep happening.

In many cases immigrants seem to take the blame, deservedly or not. There is rarely a clarification of what is meant by immigrants. Instead we all seem to be perceived as one large homogenous group. Moreover people who were born and raised here in Denmark are typically referred to as immigrants, or second and third generation immigrants. Thus much of the crime here in Denmark which is supposedly performed by immigrants might in reality be performed by Danes.

My fellow blogger Peter Andreas previously discussed how Danes can be a little clepto when it comes to taking credit for others achievements. Perhaps the reverse applies when it comes to negative deeds.

People here seem to be getting more scared or worried about crime. According to Politiken (http://i.pol.dk/tjek/bolig/hjemmet/article790829.ece) a lot of people have installed burglar alarms which make as much sound as a jetfighter taking off, and release a mass of black smoke into the room. I pity the nanny/au pair/kid who forgets the access code.

What do you think? Are the Danes exaggerating the problem when they speak in fearful tones about the polish-burglar gangs, Rumanian-beggar gangs, eastern-European robbery gangs, Muslim-immigrant-drug gangs, and so forth?

By Li Yuan Wu • September 19, 2009
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Goodbye summer, Hello autumn.

I’m sorry I haven’t updated this blog in a long time, but I’ve been so busy enjoying summer here in Denmark, that it simply slipped my mind.

Out of the seven summers I’ve spent here in Denmark, this has by far been the best. That’s because all my previous summers have been spent out in “the middle of nowhere”. When I first came here I lived in a city called Haslev which is about two hours by train away from Copenhagen. Then 2 years later I moved to Holbæk, which is also about an hour away from Copenhagen. After another 3 years I moved Trekroner outside Roskilde, which is about half an hour from Copenhagen, and now this summer I’ve finally moved to Copenhagen.

Finally I’ve been able to experience the vibrant Danish summer culture, I’ve been able to see Copenhagen in a completely new way by biking around. I no longer have to worry about checking timetables, and catching the last train home when I went out to Copenhagen, because let’s face it if you want to have fun or experience something on Zealand, you have to go to Copenhagen.

Here’s a few snapshots of fun things i saw during the summer

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So what have I been spending my summer on then? Well for one thing I studied, I attended Copenhagen Business School’s summer university program, where I got the chance to meet a lot of other foreigners and make more friends from all over the world. But besides academic work which did take up a large part of my time, I’ve been doing a large number of things.

First of all I worked with the web-TV show www.mydenmarktv.com as a co-host and writer. We’ve been working on it very intensely during the summer to ensure that a new and interesting episode could be posted every week, I’ve embedded episode twelve which I hosted, so feel free to check it out.

Episode #12 – MyDenmarkTV.com from MyDenmarkTV on Vimeo.

My fiancée Rune and I decided that during the summer we would try to have as many culinary experiences in Copenhagen as possible, so we spent a lot of time searching the internet for interesting restaurants and café’s in Copenhagen, we found that a really useful website for doing that is www.aok.dk, so we’ve been biking all over Copenhagen to try what the city has to offer. In august there was a actually a food festival here in Copenhagen, where many of the best restaurants such as world famous Noma offered gourmet meals at student friendly prices, moreover a lot of restaurants had special offers or menus during the food festival. We tried to book tables are many of these restaurants, but weren’t quick enough, seems there’s a lot of food crazed Danes out there.

We did get to experience a very special restaurant though called Knipps Kaj, it’s a restaurant which only exists for a few weeks every year, and serves the food outside under the bridge Knippelsbro. It’s really a magical feeling sitting there under a bridge looking at Copenhagen’s waterfront with the beautiful opera house and black diamond library, enjoying your food and wine while a guy in a kayak paddles by.

The thing about Danish summer is that it’s more or less the only period where the weather is so nice that you can spend a long time outside just enjoying the sun, so I spent a lot of time during the summer going to Copenhagen’s parks, particularly Valby parken which is right next to where I live. In my home country China parks are always very artificial, and crowded, but in Denmark its only really the famous and central parks which are crowded, if you go a bit more outside of town the parks are very peaceful and quiet. Valbyparken is one such park, and it’s actually also the second largest park in Copenhagen, with Fælledparken being the largest and most popular.

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If you love flowers you will also love Valbyparken, the park actually has a large number of smaller parks and gardens inside it with flowers from all over the world, and in the heart of Valbyparken there’s a large secluded area full of roses, with hundreds of different kinds, so if you’re ever looking for a place to take a date and “seal the deal” then I warmly suggest Valbyparken.

Another great thing about Danish parks and nature in general is that there are hundreds of fruit trees that you are free to pick from as long as you don’t harm the tree. In Valbyparken I found the long road which has hundreds of Mirabelle trees, one day I brought a large basket and picked over 4 kg’s, I then went home and turned them all into delicious jam that Rune and I have been eating ever since.

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So summer here in Copenhagen has been great fun. But now it’s over, autumn is starting, the temperature is dropping, and the famous Danish rainy weather is steadily making its appearance known, seen the nights will be filled with rain and thunder. However autumn also means mushroom season in Denmark, so I’ve bought a mushroom picking book, and I’m going to go as often as possible into the Danish forests to try my luck as a mushroom hunter. Furthermore bad weather and thunder means hygge, lying under the covers drinking tea or hot chocolate and watching movies, candlight dinners, and having friends over.

So instead of lamenting the passing of Danish summer I choose to say

Goodbye summer, Hello autumn!

By Li Yuan Wu • September 14, 2009

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Danish mentality VS my “Chinese efficiency”

Hello everybody sorry that I haven’t  uploaded any news for a while, I just came back from a holiday in China and my summer university courses started about 2 weeks ago.

I want to say thank you very much to all of you who have visited my blog and left comments or questions. I really appreciate your interest and I have done my best to answer your questions.

For those of you who want to know more about everyday life in Denmark I strongly recommend checking out the website www.mydenmarktv.com  It is a really good website with a lot of practical information about denmark and fun stuff. I will helping out the website with some volunteer work from now on. so check it out.

So as you may have guessed I’ve been quite busy, that’s because sometimes it feels really good to keep yourself busy for a while. I feel that in this way, i enjoy the free time I have afterward much more, and feel more satisfied with myself i have achieved a lot of things in a short while. I guess that in some way its some of the Danish mentality rubbing off on me.

The Danish mentality I speak of is the mentality that it’s ok to be busy, as long as you are busy enjoying life. Of course this isn’t a unique Danish thing, not at all, but it is quite widespread here in Denmark. It is especially evident during the summer, people seem to like a clear separation between work-life and “life-life” during working hours they are busy earning money and chasing down opportunities, but after hours you see many Danes enjoying the evening sun in the parks, having a BBQ party, or going to the beach (many of these things involving cold beers). Summer vacations are planned a year or half a year in advance, and many Danes spend 2-3 weeks of their total 7 weeks of vacation during the summer (school) holiday  going warm places with warm pools and cold drinks.

I also love doing all these things, but sometimes I think this nation has made me too lazy and relaxed. I even feel guilty sometimes if I didn’t really do anything for a whole weekend except hang out with friends or watch movies. It kind of contradicts my “Chinese efficiency”  so in order to make myself feel better I decide to keep myself busy, not all the time, and not to earn money or gain opportunities, simply to feel that I am achieving something every day.

Until next time

Li Yuan Wu

By Li Yuan Wu • July 10, 2009

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An unavoidable drinking culture

Danish people love drinking!!!

Maybe you will say who doesn’t?! After all every nation has its own drinking culture, with different drinking customs, habits or styles. Yes, that is true, but after these years of living in Denmark, I have personally come to the conclusion that Danes are an extreme case.

Almost every possible occasion involves alcohol, sometimes even during work.  I heard that 20-30 years ago, when Denmark was a shipbuilding nation, employees working at the big ship building factories were almost forced to have beers 5 to 6 times a day, every day.

They eventually abandoned the custom because it caused so many different accidents, and the factories shut down long ago due to competition from the far east, but the beers are still a part of Danish work culture.

Of course not in the sense that people go to work every day to get pissed, more in the sense that alcohol, parties, Friday beers, that turn into Friday bars, which at university turn into Thursday, Friday and Saturday bars, are one of the primary ways of socializing with Danish people.

During my time at university here in Denmark I’ve tried following the maxim “when in Rome, do as the Romans.” And I’ve had some very fun times, I’ve met and partied with a lot of my classmates, been out dancing a lot, made new friends, and had a lot of very deep beer-induced conversations.

But when I would come to school the next day and meet these very same people, I would only receive a nod of the head or a slight smile rather than a warm welcome.

It seems as if Danes are only capable of opening up and socializing with someone who isn’t in their immediate circle of friend, if the Danish culture part of their brain is shut down by alcohol.

Luckily this doesn’t apply to all Danes, and I cherish the great friendships I’ve made with Danes during my years here, and perhaps the Danes who act like I’ve described above aren’t worth collecting as friends anyway.

Nevertheless it is frustrating that people cannot open up to you and be friendly with you if they are sober, it makes me worried about what work-life would be like here in Denmark, and it makes me understand why so many of the foreigners I’ve met here in Denmark have a very bad impression of the Danes.

Now please tell me that I’m wrong and that there’s hope yet.

By Li Yuan Wu • May 15, 2009

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Learning Danish

Learning Danish

The First year I was in Denmark, I didn’t even bother to think about learning Danish. There are a few main reasons beside the fact that I was kind of lazy :-P   first, Danish people are pretty good at speaking English. Almost everywhere you go in Denmark, you can ask for help in English. Secondly I found Danish pronunciation really weird, (sometimes it sounds like people are throwing up when they talk) I simply didn’t think it would be possible for me to learn it. besides I am a university student whose lectures are all taught in English, and finally, I didn’t really know how long time I would stay here in Denmark, so I figured what do I need Danish for if i don’t live in Denmark? Hehehe… basically what I ‘m trying to say is that there was no need, and no motivation for me to learn Danish. But in 2007 I ran out of excuses, after 5 years here in Denmark and having a Danish boyfriend, I felt that not speaking Danish is not proper behavior.

Don’t ask me why, this is just how I felt. Sometimes when I was asked by people how long time I’d been living in Denmark, and I told them 5 years, most of the Danes were very surprised, and they usually asked me “why don’t you speak Danish?” I was sick and tired of being asked things like that, so I decided to give it a try.

 Honestly, I didn’t find Danish as hard as I had imagined. The pronunciation is very unique, but as long as you discover the technique and train the specific muscle area, you will do just fine. You know what, here is a good start, this is the sentence that I was always asked to repeat by my Danish friends. And if you meet a Dane abroad he’ll probably ask you to do the same. If you can pronounce this one properly, you will be able to speak Danish like a native.  J

“rødgrød med fløde”   

 

Anyhow The result isn’t bad, I finished modul 5 last year after one and half year (this is the second highest level in the Danish language test system, the highest one is modul 6, and If you pass that one it means that you can study in Danish at university level). My writing is not as good as my oral, this is because written Danish is very different from oral Danish, Danes “eat” a lot of words when they talk, which makes it really hard for foreigners to figure out the meaning when just listening to it.

Actually the only Dane who actually speaks Danish like it’s written is Margrethe the Queen (and old conservative rich people), whereas her Husband’s pronunciation is so bad that he can make even the novice language students swell with prideJ.

By Li Yuan Wu • May 4, 2009

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